Wednesday, April 28, 2010
'Put teen killer cops behind bars, not desks'
KUALA LUMPUR: The Human Rights Party wants the policemen involved in the shooting of a 15-year-old teenager to be accorded the same treatment as other suspects in a murder probe.
“They should be arrested and remanded pending investigation,” said HRP pro-tem secretary-general P Uthayakumar.
He was responding to Selangor police chief Khalid Abu Bakar's statement that the policemen had been reassigned to desk duties.
“They killed a young boy, these policemen should be in jail,” he told FMT, adding that such action would serve as a deterrent for other policemen."
Uthayakumar, who has consistenly accused the police of being trigger-happy, said: “It must be drilled into their heads that the police are not above the law.”
“If it was you or me, we would be in jail by now. Why the special privilege for them?” he asked, expressing regret that a young boy's life was needlessly lost.
Citing the Criminal Procedure Code, Uthayakumar, who is a lawyer, stressed that the law is clear on the discharging of firearms by policemen.
“Although this is probably a case of an overzealous policeman firing his weapon, stern action however would put a full stop to this,” he said.
PAS MP: Don't cover up
Earlier, PAS Shah Alam MP Khalid Samad also warned the police not to "cover up" the incident.
In view of this, he urged the police to ensure the safety of the witness. “There should not be any attempts to change his statement,” he told a press conference.
Khalid claimed that the police had a tendency to sweep such cases under the carpet.
According to the police report made by the witness, he and the victim identified as Aminul Rashid Amzah were returning from a restaurant in Section 7, Shah Alam, yesterday.
The witness claimed that they overtook a police vehicle, which later chased their car, and it was during the pursuit that the cops had allegedly opened fire, forcing them to come to a halt.
The report said that when the witness alighted from the car to surrender, he was kicked and punched by the policemen.
However, the witness managed to flee the scene and returned home.
Police's version different
Meanwhile, the police's version of the incident was different.
Khalid was reported as saying that his men had chased the Proton Iswara driven by the deceased after suspecting something was amiss.
He claimed that instead of slowing down, the teenager sped on, leading the police to shoot the tyres.
When the car skidded to a halt, Khalid said one of the suspects escaped, while the driver reversed the vehicle attempting to ram into the policemen, who were joined by others from a different patrol unit.
“Surprised by the suspect's action, a police officer fired in self-defence,” he said, claiming that the police discovered a machete in the car later.
Aminul died on the way to the Tengku Ampuan Rahimah Hospital in Klang.
Khalid also said the four police personnel have been transferred to desk jobs pending an investigation under Section 302 of the Penal Code for murder.
Meanwhile, the PAS MP said he was told that Aminul was a good student who was active in sports.
Hulu S’gor: HRP deemed the stumbling block for PR for speaking up for poor Indians. Indian mandore reporters and internet writers used to undermine HRP struggle.
Hulu S’gor: HRP deemed the stumbling block for PR for speaking up for poor Indians. Indian mandore reporters and internet writers used to undermine HRP struggle.
In the aftermath and the dust settles after the Hulu Selangor by elections, we are getting SMSes, calls and feedback that HRP could and would have made a difference to PR winning the Hulu Selangor by elections. Yes, we could have easily swayed at least that 863 votes so that PKR would have won by one vote.
A thousand mile journey begins with a single step. When Anwar Ibrahim refuses to grant even the basic necessity of Tamil school land for all the 98 Tamil Schools land in Selangor, which in turn would have forced UMNO to grant them fully financial aid status how are we to support PKR and PR? We cannot be the blind supporters that PKR, DAP and PAS wants us to be, like how the MIC mandores have been for UMNO for 53 years, or how PR’s 11 Indian MPs and the 15 ADUN mandores are doing now.
HULU SELANGORAnd now PKR, DAP and PAS in the interest or political expediency expects HRP to support their party line and also abandon these critical Indian problems which HRP will not.
HRP means business. HRP will speak up without fear or favour, for especially the Indian poor, as there seem to be no takers for their pain, suffering and degeneration.
Who speaks for the poor Indians? UMNO? Or PKR, DAP or PAS?
None! So if HRP also abandons these critical Indian problems and opt to play to the majoritarian Chinese, Malay and Native gallery, at least 70% of the Indians within the next ten years would be reduced into destitution in Malaysia, which is already in the making today.
PKR, DAP and PAS in their zest to get to Putrajaya are almost wholly sidestepping the critical Indian problems, beginning from the three west coast states they are ruling.
We are not prepared for UMNO to be replaced by the PKR led clone of UMNO. We want to move parallel with PKR, DAP and PAS’ intended ascent to Putrajaya.
HRP will be the check and balance for PR vis a vis the critical Indian problems when they get to Putrajaya.
PR is trying to tell us not to pursue the critical Indian problems until they get to Putrajaya. And then PR will, ala UMNO, ask for another 50 years to put the Indians back on track.
Why can’t solving the basic necessity and critical Indian problems be more parellel with P.R’s ambitions to Putrajaya? This would go a long way in displaying sincerity to the critical Indian problems.
As it stands PR is only showing their zest in the Indian votes, but not resolving their issues.
PR is now getting alternative media writers to undermine HRP.
Several Indian writers, journalists, NGO activists, etc., perhaps suffering from minority complex syndrome or inferiority complex, almost wholly sidestep the real and critical Indian problems. They would rather play to the gallery and cari makan or not take the risk of being branded a racist. This aforesaid group collectively has probably written about 1% of the critical Indian problems we highlight here on a day to day basis.
In their supposed hidden multi-racial agenda to dilute the Indian critical problems they often write that there are also poor orang Asli, poor Malays and poor Iban and Kadazan. But they have never replied to our explanation that the poor Malays, orang Asli, Kadazan and Iban have their social safety net of their traditional villages and ancestral villages, plus the privileges as bumiputras. The sky is the limit for them to earn a living by engaging agricultural activities, animal and poultry farming. But this option is no way available to the Indian poor. Even Jeffrey Kitingan and other east Malaysian leaders concede that the native east Malaysians are better off than the Indian poor.
The truth is that the Indian issues have emerged so critical and in a condemned state of affairs, so much so that these Indian writers, mandores and their tuans and towkays in PKR, DAP and PAS have conveniently chosen to abandon them.
There is a Tamil proverb that if one cannot be of any help, one should not be stumbling block (in this HRP struggle). Just as how HRP was never a stumbling block for PR in the Hulu Selangor by elections.
Karunai Nithi @ Compassionate Justice
In the aftermath and the dust settles after the Hulu Selangor by elections, we are getting SMSes, calls and feedback that HRP could and would have made a difference to PR winning the Hulu Selangor by elections. Yes, we could have easily swayed at least that 863 votes so that PKR would have won by one vote.
A thousand mile journey begins with a single step. When Anwar Ibrahim refuses to grant even the basic necessity of Tamil school land for all the 98 Tamil Schools land in Selangor, which in turn would have forced UMNO to grant them fully financial aid status how are we to support PKR and PR? We cannot be the blind supporters that PKR, DAP and PAS wants us to be, like how the MIC mandores have been for UMNO for 53 years, or how PR’s 11 Indian MPs and the 15 ADUN mandores are doing now.
HULU SELANGORAnd now PKR, DAP and PAS in the interest or political expediency expects HRP to support their party line and also abandon these critical Indian problems which HRP will not.
HRP means business. HRP will speak up without fear or favour, for especially the Indian poor, as there seem to be no takers for their pain, suffering and degeneration.
Who speaks for the poor Indians? UMNO? Or PKR, DAP or PAS?
None! So if HRP also abandons these critical Indian problems and opt to play to the majoritarian Chinese, Malay and Native gallery, at least 70% of the Indians within the next ten years would be reduced into destitution in Malaysia, which is already in the making today.
PKR, DAP and PAS in their zest to get to Putrajaya are almost wholly sidestepping the critical Indian problems, beginning from the three west coast states they are ruling.
We are not prepared for UMNO to be replaced by the PKR led clone of UMNO. We want to move parallel with PKR, DAP and PAS’ intended ascent to Putrajaya.
HRP will be the check and balance for PR vis a vis the critical Indian problems when they get to Putrajaya.
PR is trying to tell us not to pursue the critical Indian problems until they get to Putrajaya. And then PR will, ala UMNO, ask for another 50 years to put the Indians back on track.
Why can’t solving the basic necessity and critical Indian problems be more parellel with P.R’s ambitions to Putrajaya? This would go a long way in displaying sincerity to the critical Indian problems.
As it stands PR is only showing their zest in the Indian votes, but not resolving their issues.
PR is now getting alternative media writers to undermine HRP.
Several Indian writers, journalists, NGO activists, etc., perhaps suffering from minority complex syndrome or inferiority complex, almost wholly sidestep the real and critical Indian problems. They would rather play to the gallery and cari makan or not take the risk of being branded a racist. This aforesaid group collectively has probably written about 1% of the critical Indian problems we highlight here on a day to day basis.
In their supposed hidden multi-racial agenda to dilute the Indian critical problems they often write that there are also poor orang Asli, poor Malays and poor Iban and Kadazan. But they have never replied to our explanation that the poor Malays, orang Asli, Kadazan and Iban have their social safety net of their traditional villages and ancestral villages, plus the privileges as bumiputras. The sky is the limit for them to earn a living by engaging agricultural activities, animal and poultry farming. But this option is no way available to the Indian poor. Even Jeffrey Kitingan and other east Malaysian leaders concede that the native east Malaysians are better off than the Indian poor.
The truth is that the Indian issues have emerged so critical and in a condemned state of affairs, so much so that these Indian writers, mandores and their tuans and towkays in PKR, DAP and PAS have conveniently chosen to abandon them.
There is a Tamil proverb that if one cannot be of any help, one should not be stumbling block (in this HRP struggle). Just as how HRP was never a stumbling block for PR in the Hulu Selangor by elections.
Karunai Nithi @ Compassionate Justice
UMNO: MIC Mandore trying to cheat Hindraf and HRP hardcore members without solving Bukit Jalil Tamil school and estate workers housing and EPF problems.
UMNO: MIC Mandore trying to cheat Hindraf and HRP hardcore members without solving Bukit Jalil Tamil school and estate workers housing and EPF problems. The MIC Deputy minister mandore under UMNO’s instructions throws some bread crumbs, and dishes out some peanuts.
But continuing the 53 year UMNO tradition, core but basic necessity problems like the Bukit Jalil Tamil school, houses for at least the 40 remaining estate workers and their unaccounted for EPF contributions was completely side stepped.
Shanthi and Captain Bala are Hindraf and HRP hardcore members who are not going to kowtow to UMNO.
They would stay and put and fight.
P.Uthayakumar
Hindraf heroes at HRP briefing; Not pleading guilty to 25th November 2007 Hindraf Rally
Hindraf heroes at HRP briefing; Not pleading guilty to 25th November 2007 Hindraf RallyOn 21/4/10 A group of 23 Hindraf heroes who were unlawfully arrested detained, denied bail (initially), and maliciously prosecuted for unlawful assembly during the 25th November 2007 Hindraf Rally, were charged at the Kuala Lumpur sessions court.
These Hindraf heroes after having briefed on the pros and cons of pleading guilty maintained that they wanted to go through with the criminal prosecution knowing that the UMNO controlled Malay-sian Judiciary may eventually put them in jail for merely exercising their right to assemble peacefully without arms as is enshrined in Article 10 of the Federal Constitution.
These Hindraf heroes were briefed by Lawyers Manogaran (M.P Teluk Intan), P.Uthayakumar, Chandrasegar and S.Jayathas.A question and answer and clarification session ended the two and a half meeting. Earlier a video presentation on the Hindraf struggle prepared by S.Jayathas was played.
The Hindraf heroes left even more convinced with their struggle.
S.Jayathas
UMNO’s RM1.00 per head to train Indian entrepreneurs
UMNO’s RM1.00 per head to train Indian entrepreneurs
The 2010 Budget allocation is RM191.5 billion and yet UMNO has the cheek to grant RM2 million for the 2 Million Indian population in Malay-sia @ an average of RM1.00 per Indian through their Indian business mandore.
Despite 53 years of independence UMNO still segregates the Indians and excludes them from the national mainstream development of Malaysia by this peanuts and mandore politics.
UMNO is obsolete, we the fourth, fifth and sixth generation of Indians see through this UMNO rasicm, religious extremism and supremacy.
We should be part of the RM191.5 million budget and do not need a separate allocation of the peanuts of RM1.00 to create one Indian entrepreneur.
UMNO should stop repeatedly insulting the Indians.
P.Uthayakumar
The 2010 Budget allocation is RM191.5 billion and yet UMNO has the cheek to grant RM2 million for the 2 Million Indian population in Malay-sia @ an average of RM1.00 per Indian through their Indian business mandore.Despite 53 years of independence UMNO still segregates the Indians and excludes them from the national mainstream development of Malaysia by this peanuts and mandore politics.
UMNO is obsolete, we the fourth, fifth and sixth generation of Indians see through this UMNO rasicm, religious extremism and supremacy.
We should be part of the RM191.5 million budget and do not need a separate allocation of the peanuts of RM1.00 to create one Indian entrepreneur.
UMNO should stop repeatedly insulting the Indians.
P.Uthayakumar
ASN blue chip shares to door steps of poor Malays and Sabah & Sarawak natives. Zero for poor Indians
ASN blue chip shares to door steps of poor Malays and Sabah & Sarawak natives. Zero for poor IndiansInvestments in the preferential blue chip government guaranteed ASN shares are brought to the poor Malays, Kadazan, Iban and Orang Asli as per the newsreport in SH 24/4/10 at page N16.
Investment seminars to be held from the Balik Pulau police station to the Balai Raya Kg Gating, Johor, N.Sembilan to Rumah Panjang Sg Ukong Lambir, Miri, Sarawak, Tawau, Sabah etc.
But no such programmes for the Indian poor.
Who speaks for the Indian poor?
Who speaks for the Indians UMNO? Or PKR, DAP or PAS?
Who has been speaking for them?
P.Uthayakumar
The move of the Indian votes to UMNO is tactical and PR needs to understand that the Indian votes do not come for free . They must be earned.
Kee Thuan Chye wrote in an article published today the 27th of April 2010 in www.freemalaysiatoday.com titled ‘”They don’t want change do they?”
“Indian voters suffered from myopia and amnesia, the big Hindraf march of late 2007 expressing the frustration of more than 50 years of Indian marginalisation all but forgotten. They went for the short-term gains.”
Myopia mean short sight. Meaning Indians have gone for short term gains. Have they really?
The Indians marched for changes to their lives in the Grand Hindraf Rally. Have they seen the changes?
From their standpoint PR is proving to be no different than BN in the last two years. Every Indian problem that existed two years ago at the time of the Rally is pretty much still there. Nothing has been forthcoming from the PR Governments in the 4 states to really address the underlying issues . Just unfulfilled promises, theatrics in the media, mollifying goodies and more of the mandore stuff ala UMNO.
Then we get silly excuses like it is only two years, we need more time.
Why does one need so much time to address a couple of the issues , for a lesser community. Has anything serious really been started that may take some time to yield tangible results or changes?
So, what does one infer from all of this? ……… only that PR has no political will to address the Indian issues, plain and simple. That is not much different than under BN, is it? Kee, tell me that the inference is unjustified.
The votes have not gone permanently to BN either. It has gone to BN as a protest against PR for their amnesia. Will stay there only as long as necessary. PR cannot take the Indian votes for granted. PR has to earn the Indian votes.
Now see that it is PR who has amnesia, but I do not see you complaining. Kee!
Indians have not gone for short term gains. Anyway how much of the multimillions were spent on projects benefitting the Indians.The move of the votes is tactical to let PR know there must be permanent changes, the changes the Indians marched for, in the Grand Hindraf Rally, if PR is to keep the votes. That is actually a long term move , more than what you can grasp, it appears, dear Kee, It is not because of myopia or amnesia as you so superficially put it, or so self servingly understand it.
Your tone in accusing the Indians that they suffer from myopia and amnesia is downright condescending. Please do not think you have monopoly over wisdom. This condescending attitude, generally seen with our Chinese compatriots is also a needed component of the change we seek of this racist system. Let us see some of that as we walk together for larger changes. What say you?
Naragan
“Indian voters suffered from myopia and amnesia, the big Hindraf march of late 2007 expressing the frustration of more than 50 years of Indian marginalisation all but forgotten. They went for the short-term gains.”
Myopia mean short sight. Meaning Indians have gone for short term gains. Have they really? The Indians marched for changes to their lives in the Grand Hindraf Rally. Have they seen the changes?
From their standpoint PR is proving to be no different than BN in the last two years. Every Indian problem that existed two years ago at the time of the Rally is pretty much still there. Nothing has been forthcoming from the PR Governments in the 4 states to really address the underlying issues . Just unfulfilled promises, theatrics in the media, mollifying goodies and more of the mandore stuff ala UMNO.
Then we get silly excuses like it is only two years, we need more time.
Why does one need so much time to address a couple of the issues , for a lesser community. Has anything serious really been started that may take some time to yield tangible results or changes?
So, what does one infer from all of this? ……… only that PR has no political will to address the Indian issues, plain and simple. That is not much different than under BN, is it? Kee, tell me that the inference is unjustified.
The votes have not gone permanently to BN either. It has gone to BN as a protest against PR for their amnesia. Will stay there only as long as necessary. PR cannot take the Indian votes for granted. PR has to earn the Indian votes.
Now see that it is PR who has amnesia, but I do not see you complaining. Kee!
Indians have not gone for short term gains. Anyway how much of the multimillions were spent on projects benefitting the Indians.The move of the votes is tactical to let PR know there must be permanent changes, the changes the Indians marched for, in the Grand Hindraf Rally, if PR is to keep the votes. That is actually a long term move , more than what you can grasp, it appears, dear Kee, It is not because of myopia or amnesia as you so superficially put it, or so self servingly understand it.
Your tone in accusing the Indians that they suffer from myopia and amnesia is downright condescending. Please do not think you have monopoly over wisdom. This condescending attitude, generally seen with our Chinese compatriots is also a needed component of the change we seek of this racist system. Let us see some of that as we walk together for larger changes. What say you?
Naragan
‘So, is the Indian vote still insignificant?’
‘Pakatan dismissed Indian votes as insignificant and they were not interested in recapturing Indian votes. Denial is the best weapon for self-destruction.’Fairplay: Both spent money and distributed goodies to convince the voters, but finally, who spent more, won.
Although BN spent more, Pakatan Rakyat’s campaign strategy did not win the heart of the voters. We can’t deny that incidents like tearing down posters, vulgar words, militant tactics, and Zaid Ibrahim’s personality contributed to the failure to attract voters.
At the same time, MIC top leaders did not go to the ground but sent new faces to convince the Indian voters. They explained to the voters that S Samy Vellu will step down, the Maika money will be returned to the shareholders, that we must have another Indian in Parliament, and so on.
This approach influenced more voters than that adopted by PKR’s Indian leaders, who are only active in releasing press statements but came to Hulu Selangor and talked nonsense.
G Pandi Tan: Anwar Ibrahim, you may be a self-made man but you have to admit those Indian PKR MPs and state assembly members do not have Indian grassroots support. You isolating the real Hindraf has cost you Hulu Selangor.
Raja Rajan: Pakatan leaders are still in self-denial. They don’t want to acknowledge they lost the Indian votes. They dismissed Indian votes as insignificant and they were not interested in recapturing these Indian votes. Denial is the best weapon for self-destruction.
Hindraf hero Magendran injured and hospitalised during cause of duty
Hindraf hero Magendran injured and hospitalised during cause of duty
Magendran a hard core, committed and dedicated Hindraf supporter who hardly misses any Hindraf and HRP event with Hindraf’s trademark orange T shirt. Last week he volunteered to send HRPs’ Project 15/38 fliers to the courier company to be dispatched to HRP Johor office which was to be distributed at a local temple festival.
Unfortunately a bundle fell on Magen’s leg. Not realising the fracture Magen carried on as usual but his leg got swollen and was finally admitted at the K.L General Hospital on 16/4/2010. He has since had three minor operations on his leg.
Yesterday P.Uthayakumar visited Magen and presented a small token of appreciation from HRP and Hindraf.
We wish Magen a speedy recovery.
Those wishing to visit/ call Magen can do so at K.L GH Ward 4, Level 2. Magen can be reached at 012-2612387.
S.Jayathas
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