Thursday, September 24, 2009

HINDRAF challenges LGE for a televised lived debate on Kg Buah Pala issue.

HINDRAF believes that the opposition party that it had supported during the GE12 had not lived up to the expectation of the public at least in the Kg Buah Pala Issue.

HINDRAF is not looking for a political solution but a people’s solution to live in harmony without the spin and propaganda that have outlived our community for fear and favor.

LGE has his state machineries, media and the political power at his disposal whereas HINDRAF has only its conscience and truth on its side for the people.

UMNO led government produces a lot of rhetoric, diagnoses, denunciation of injustice and proposals to address it. That has been the nation for the last 52 years as the public continued to suffer and deteriorate even further. HINDRAF took a stand in GE 12 to mobilize its grassroot supporters to support the opposition to seek a change and the change appeared in the five states that the opposition won for a people’s cause.

Now with the Kg Buah Pala issue, there seems too be many mismatches in the the CAT principal that the opposition had spoken about. Rather than taking on the past government that we all know who have been misleading the community, we call upon LGE government to address us in an open forum to revive the democracy between the administration and the people.

Collapse or survival of an administration or a society is on the truth in their action rather than placating for a political survival that means nothing for an ordinary man on the street for his or her survival in an unjust system that had prevailed.

HINDRAF is for the people for what is truthful and just and the failure of the very opposition that we had supported to disregard us in engaging in a dialogue, discussion on their competency, accountability and transparency to safeguard public interest will only reflect another Trojan Horse in the guise of UMNO against public benefit.

The altered landscape that HINDRAF brought against the might of UMNO is not about politics but the public and the well being of the community for what is truthful and just. If the opposition, the so called flag bearer of the community is unable to comprehend this and continues to spin and simulate UMNO’s position, then it is nothing but a change of guard without any actual benefit for the public and community that we live in.

If LGE government is all about CAT, then enlighten us and the the public with us on a televised live debate based on facts, evidence and truth on what really transpired in Kg Buah Pala issue.

As far HINDRAF is concerned, Kg Buah Pala is far from being a closed chapter until and when the actual truth is transmitted to the public. The public shall be the judge, not media, hypothesis that serves a political intention will as oppose to the public need.

Whether LGE has run a spin or not is no the issue, but this would be a excellent opportunity for the public to gauge only if he is ready to face up to it. Running against the obstinate UMNO led government is pretty futile as we know how it is going to against brickwall that bounces itself.

Here HINDRAF, being an NGO offers an opportunity to LGE to show that that the opposition really is set out to address the community issues under the change that the community seeked.

It is a clarion call for LGE, nothing more nothing less for CAT to survive for the communities will as oppose to political will.

Thank you.



International Coordinator (New York)

Lim Guan Eng Transffered Buah Pala Land on 27 March 2009

Referring to the Press Statement Issued by Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng in Georgetown on 23.9.2009.

The Rakyat (People) has chosen Pakatan Rakyat to take over the administration of the 5 states in the hope that they will solve all the pending issues and mess created by the Barisan Nasional Government since the era of my grandfather. I will not defend the Barisan Nasional Government for any of their act and political crimes, since they are the main culprit on many pending issues in the state taken over by the Pakatan Rakyat Government. We consider Pakatan Rakyat as our Hero who came to save the people that are discriminated for a long long time. They came, they promised and we cast the vote on their field and then the whole and old games started. Why in the first place we voted for Pakatan Rakyat? We want to see changes, we want our rights to be respected, we want to clear the mess created by the Barisan Nasional Government, and we want them to correct the pattern drawn wrongly by the BN government, we want to erase the act of Corruption and delete the Cronies Chapters!. Am I right here?

Ok, now we see the way Kg.Buah Pala issue has been handled by Lim Guan Eng and his Mandores, Ramasamy and RSN Rayer@Liar!, I am well verse with the chronology and manipulation in the case of Buah Pala, from the stripping by the Gerakan Government to the Raping moments of Lim Guan Eng and his sex partners(Ramasamy,Rayer,Nusmetro and Koperasi), from the time the Land was marked for development to the processes involved on the ground and underground. Let’s not waste our time looking at the processes, you can check on my blog on the processes, discrimination, brutality, injustices etc. ( Now, the historical Kg.Buah Pala, the Indian Heritage Village is a History and today, there is only one house standing not fully but after being molested! And left remained there for few more days for the owner’s source of income and pride, cattle and goats!

Lim Guan Eng's statement :

"Why Has Gerakan’s Datuk Dr Teng Hock Nan or BN Not Repented By Apologising For His Part And BN’s Role In Selling Out The Kampung Buah Pala Residents Of Their Land At Such Cheap Rates Without Consulting Them?"

He knew very well that the Land has been sold so cheap, RM10 per sq feet (market price is more than RM50 per sq ft), and he knows there is something is not right in this dealing.

Lim Guan Eng's statement :

The PR state government worked hard to compel the developer to offer a double-storey terrace house with 99 years lease to the residents worth RM 600,000. This successful compensation by the PR state government to gain recognition for Kampung Buah Pala residents to remain as legal rightful landowners and not as illegal squatters to be given a RM 75,000 flat unit which is widely recognised as the best in Malaysian history.

Double storey house worth RM600,000 ?? Oiii Lim Guan Eng Lu Gila Kah?? I was there in Kg.Buah Pala for about a month, and there is not a single 'legal' document or agreement from the state government or Koperasi the Land Owner, addressed to the villagers stated about the RM600,000 double storey house! I can challenge anyone to prove this! There is only one illegal, incomplete, and injustice offer letter which has not been stamped and no proper signature and trap conditions from Nusmetro Ventures, stated that they will build a double storey house for the villagers in exchange with ; 1. All the pending cases in the Court to be withdrawn, and they have no rights to file any case against the developer or any one involved in the development of the Kg.Buah Pala land.

2. No time limit stated, when the house will be ready? God Knows! What Material used? Papan? Plywood? Palm leaves? God Knows...

3. In any case the development at the Land, Halt, Stopped or Freezed.. this agreement will be void or cancelled. Or Invalid.

4. The house will be built in the land determined by the developer! Where? God Knows..

5. Size of the house to be built? 1400sq ft, 600 sq ft lower floor, 600sq ft upper. 200sq ft outside space. hmm.. good deal? Current approx size of each house in the village now : 13,000 sq ft.

6. Read more on the Nusmetro Agreement on cryingvoices.

Lim Guan Eng agreed and stated that the Villagers are not squatters! But have you guys seen the way villagers were treated during demolition? Where was Lim Guan Eng when the Developer's man harassed the villagers? watch video and photos at

Lim Guan Eng's statement

Once the decision of the BN state EXCO has been conveyed by approval letters for land alienation and development orders sent out to Koperasi and the developer, the state government is legally bound. There is nothing the new PR government can do as it is bound by the decisions approved by BN. This was also affirmed by the Federal Court decision. The order for eviction and demolition was issued to the developer and not initiated by the state government.

There is nothing the new PR Government can do as it is bound by the decisions approved by BN???

Then why are you talking about ISA? It is also a legal term and stated in the Federal Constitution and decided by the BN Government! If you can’t change the decision and rules set by the BN Government, then what the hell are you here for and why the hell did we chose you to sit in the Administration? To get your allowance and stay in your private residency peacefully with all the luxuries and claims?

If you are telling that we are bound with and affirmed by the Federal Court Decision and we wash our hands, then Did your Pakatan Government Boss Anwar Ibrahim a real sodomiser? Coz court decision has been made. and you went to ISA for instigating Racial Sensitivities, you are real culprit? I am talking from your point of view. This shows that you are a leader that respects the courts decision, aren’t you? Good then Perak State Government belongs to BN, why are you appealing again and again? court decision has been made! You said that Order for Eviction and Demolition was Issued to the developer? DEMOLITION?? The Developer only has the right for the vacant Land! and no demolition orders from the court have been acquired! This is a lame statement by you Lim Guan Eng.

Lim Guan Eng's statement

In contrast, the new PR state government had never issued a single letters of eviction to the residents of Kampung Buah Pala. Similarly until now BN or Datuk Dr Teng can not show proof that I had promised that I would return the land back to the Kampung Buah Pala residents during the general elections as I did not even campaign there.

This is the real classic case of “the thief shouting thief”. Hello Mr.Chief Minister, wake up la! In a school, when a teacher tells the class that it is holiday tomorrow that means it is the instruction from the higher authority, can be from the Headmaster or higher authorities! You are the headmaster and your teachers has promised to return back the land of the Villagers as soon as they win the election and they repeat the promises even after they won the election! Worse was, they promised for an appeal to the State Government to give allocation to the village for the Yearly Ponggal Festival! Facts and Evidences? RSN Rayer Adun Seri Delima and DCM 2 Ramasamy, watch their promises at You want to hear shocking news? Your Higher Authority Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim has made a promise right in the centre of the village before the election, want prove? Ask The-Star or ask Muhyiddin Yasin and I will reveal my copy at the right time. Suggestion and Ideas from an election candidate or an elected representative could be a painting on an Ice Cube and will or will not be referred in the Parliament or State Assembly, but promises and assurance made by an Elected member of the State Assembly or the Member Of Parliament will be taken as the voice of the Assembly or the Parliament! The Chief of a state is responsible for the promises made by his executives! Lim Guan Eng did not campaign in Kg.Buah Pala and did not even make a single effort to visit the villagers when they were suffering and longing for the support from the Chief of the State! "Heritage? Bullshit! The place is just covered with Cow sheds and Cow Dungs!" .. remember these words? Pemimpin berjiwa rakyat? Delivering an outstanding speech is not the only criteria of a leader? he must do what he promised on the stage and take full responsibility of the errors made by his crew, just like the captain on a ship! and not passing the fireball to others to avoid burn and pain!

Lim Guan Eng's statement

If BN And Gerakan Are So “Innocent” Of Their Guilt In Robbing Kampung Buah Pala Residents Of Their Land, Why Is It That Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon Dare Not Take Up His Own Challenge Of An Open Public Debate With Me On National Television?

Why must Koh Tsu Koon waste his time debating this issue and what is the point and outcome? he is not in the state of making any differences, he is not in any position in the state government and he can’t reverse the decision or the development, You can! but you are trying to hit around the bush, and not trying to solve the matter! You are saying about helping the villagers and you are their best friend and you are negotiating with the villager and met them 5times for a solution, What solution have you suggested to them on every meeting? Saving the village? No! You were negotiating to the villagers on behalf of Nusmetro and trying to make the Villagers accept to the amount and compensation thrown to them. Prove to the public and release the discussion minutes to the press that you have helped the villagers to solve the problem in Buah Pala! You have only helped the developer to negotiate and persuade the Villagers to move out the Village on behalf of Nusmetro Ventures!

Lim Guan Eng's statement

BN and Gerakan were wiped out in the 2008 general elections because of their refusal to honor their promises and failed governance that bred inefficiency, cronyism and corruption. This has proven costly to the people of Penang who face losses of hundreds of millions of ringgit in land scams and sweetheart contracts that benefit the few at the expense of Penangnites.

I hope Lim Guan Eng has to re-read his statement here, we can see clearly, everything that is stated above is happening in Penang today, especially in the case of Kg.Buah Pala!

Lim Guan Eng's statement

Even though the land was transferred by the present government on 27 March 2009, I was advised by the State Legal Advisor and also DAP National Chair and MP for Bukit Glugor Karpal Singh that the Pakatan Rakyat state government was powerless to legally stop this as this was a consequential administrative action following the approvals given by the previous BN administration. This is just like the Jelutong Expressway concession agreement. The state government is bound to allow land reclamation and issuance of land title based on the previous BN government approvals

"Even though the land was transferred by the present government on 27 March 2009" The defenders of Lim Guan Eng, please take note of this statement! Thank You! Don’t you ever repeat that the land was transferred by the BN or the Office staff without Lim Guan Eng's knowledge and etc.

If on every instances, a contract or projects or a guideline that has been drawn by the previous government and you as the Chief Minister and the future Federal Government Ruling party cant make any differences or amendments or improvement or to take care of the welfare of the Citizens, Why the hell are we as voters work day and night and elect you to be our representative when there is going to be zero changes in the way Discrimination, Corruption, Development, Favoritisms are handled? Are you admitting that you can’t do much even if one day the Pakatan Government takes over the Federal Government? I think you are agreeing to my point here. Why Mr.Karpal Singh, the leading Guru of Law in Malaysia, did not open his mouth and give a clear statement on the Issue of Kg.Buah Pala until today? I guess he knows law better than anyone in the Nation and himself setback with the way Lim Guan Eng handles this issue and does not want to disappoint people like me who think he is the master of Law and he will not jeopardize his position by commenting on a case which is being handled unfairly by his party.

Lim Guan Eng's statement

The only solution to saving Kampung Buah Pala is to forcibly acquire the land. However this would cost the state more than RM 100 million.

Lim Guan Eng repeated this statement many times, but he never had explained why the State Government has to bear the cost of an Illegal Land transaction and transition with that Cost?

This project is a clear picture of an Illegal Land Transition from a Housing Trust to TOL status to a private development! It is Clearly Stated in the Grant of TOL that these land cannot be developed, mortgage, pawn, or transformed unless the with the State Governments Concern! Who is state government now? Gerakan or DAP? Koh Tsu Koon or Lim Guan Eng? then.. why do you need to spend RM100Million as the cost to stop a development project which is illegally transacted? You filed a case in MACC on this Land matter! Don’t you? So, you knew that this land cannot be developed under the state Government! Why? Why? Why? What’s your personal interest???

Lim Guan Eng Failed to explain :

In the statement by Lim Guan Eng, he spoke about many things but failed to prove more than what he has said.

-He did not mention anything about the expiry of the Terms and Contract between the State Government and the Developer.

-He failed to mentioned about the Visit by the Buah Pala Villagers on the 13 March 2008 in his office in Komtar and the remaining sum (RM2.2Mil) from the developer was collected on the next day after the visit, 14th March 2008, which directly mean that the contract is on and not expired and the developer is legally blessed and endorsed by the DAP Government to go ahead with the project.

-He also failed to explain why a project which cost RM157Mil has been given to a company which is ONLY RM125,000 paid up capital!

-He failed to explain the involvement and the interest of Penang Chinese Chamber of Commerce in the project.

-He failed to explain and take responsibility on the promises made by his executives from his office and State Assembly!


Conscious and Unconscious

False Tamil Newspapers propaganda by PKR Selangor State government and DAP, PAS in other states


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Tel: 03-2282 5241 Fax: 03-2282 5245 Website:

23rd September 2009

YAB Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim

Menteri Besar Selangor,

Pejabat Menteri Besar of Selangor,

Tingkat 21,

Bangunan Sultan Salahuddin,

Abdul Aziz Shah, Fax : 03-5519 0032

40503 Shah Alam, Selangor. E-Mail :

YAB Tan Sri,

Re: 1) 64 Hindu temples “supposedly” granted land titles (Makkal Osai 20/9/09 at page 5)

2) RM400,000.00 “supposedly” granted to Tamil Schools in Selangor (Makkal Osai


3) 23,000 civil servants in Selangor (New Straits Times 22/9/09 at page 19) (But almost

zero Indians especially in the supervisory, managerial and top executive jobs. Zero

Indian Directors in all Selangor state GLCs’, Assistant District officers, District Officers

District and Municipal Council Presidents and Mayors. How then is PKR, DAP and PAS

any different from the UMNO / MIC / BN axis?

We refer to the above matter.

It has been brought to our attention by the people power Makkal Sakthi forces that the newsreport Makkal Osai on 20/9/09 at page 5 that 64 Hindus temples had been granted state government land in Selangor is not true. Kindly let us have the list of all the aforesaid temples and copies of the state government letters confirming the same, copies of their titles thereto and copies of their being gazetted accordingly.

In the very same aforesaid newsreport a sum of RM400,000.00 was “supposedly” granted to Tamil schools in Selangor which the people power Makkal Sakthi forces also inform us is not true. Kindly also let us have a list of all the said Tamil school recipients and the amount they had received and the dates they received the same accordingly.

To avoid the likes of the barbaric cow head protest kindly use your almost absolute discretionary powers vested in the office of the Menteri Besar and acquire further to section 76 of National Land Code and grant land titles to all 97 Tamil Schools, all Hindu temples and all Hindu crematoriums in Selangor as has been done for all Suraus and Masjids in over the last 52 years. With this all the 97 Tamil schools would then qualify as fully aided government schools by the Federal Education Ministry with equal allocation and facilities like any other Malay school. Then we won’t get the case (as reported in the Tamil media last month) of the school roof being blown away but your goodselves “mandore” Exco member making his presence felt and procuring cheap publicity by instead “dishing” out stationary or Tamil schools poor and working class Parent Teacher Associations having to buy tables and chairs for Tamil schools, holding a picket to demand for a school canteen, demanding electricity supply, school field, the whole schools having to share one computer, Tamil schools pupils being forced to study at a JKR store (SRJK (T) Tepi Sungai, Klang) or forced to study in portacabins (Taiping) cow shead like Tamil school buildings falling apart because it is infested by white ants etc.

Kindly direct especially your Exco and the other “mandores” from making false and “kosong” media statements especially so in the Tamil dailies on these Selangor state government land and financial allocations as had been done for the last 50 years by the previous UMNO / BN and MIC axis Selangor state governments. Please take note that the Indians in the post 25th November 2007 era have been enlightened and are now watching your goodselves closely with their eyes wide open.

The Star on 22/9/09 at page 20 also reports as there being 23,000 civil servants in Selangor. To the best of our knowledge there are almost zero Indians especially in the supervisory, managerial and top executive jobs in the Selangor civil service. And there are actually zero Indian Directors in any of the dozen or so state government linked companies, (GLCs’) assistant district officers, district officers and Municipal Council Presidents and Mayors. Kindly also let us have the list of the 23,000 civil servants in Selangor and confirming the total number of Indians therein under the Selangor special select committee for competency, accountability and transparency (Selcat) government.

This is also the same scenario in the PKR, DAP and PAS ruled Kedah, Penang (also earlier Perak) and Kelantan state governments. How then are the PKR, DAP, PAS / P.R state government any different from the previous UMNO / MIC / BN axis?

Kindly revert to us with your reply forthwith and in any event within two (2) weeks form the date hereof.

Thank you.

Your faithfully,



Secretary General (pro-tem).